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In Pakistan students of a religious school have threatened to forcibly shut down music shops,?

threatened a woman minister for hugging a man etc. and insisted that Islamic law in its full form be imposed. Essentially this means no music, no movies, all pictures of the human form banned, all women be forced to wear the hijab, all men to be bearded, people forced to say their daily prayers ...etc. Any Islamic society which does not follow these (and many other) norms is criticized as not following Islam the way it should be followed. While this can be viewed as a severe curtailment on individual freedom, can muslims who do not agree to these restrictions openly oppose this because after all this how an Islamic society is supposed to be and standing up against these means you are standing up against Islam. ETOI- What I have written about not allowing music, forcing women to wear the hijab etc. is what Islam has specifically ordained. You can call it extremism if you wish. aali-Isnt the main problem with Islam the fact that people take the religious texts literally. The main issue is how much to accept & how much to not to. The other issue is forcing one's religious beliefs on others. ETOI- By hijab I do not mean the full face variety. However the issue is not in the variety but in forcing people to adhere to a dress code. There are any number of strong suras in the hadiths against pictures/drawings & music/dance. Everyhting is not drawn from the quran you know. Luqman 31:6 And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-Fire). Ibn Masood (ra) said about this verse "I swear by the One other than Whom there is no God that it refers to singing [ghinaa].", Ibn Abbaas (ra) said it refered to 'singing and the like' while Jaabir (ra) is reported to view its meaning to signify singing and listening to songs. Hadith - Bukhari (#787) [Also related by Tabari] Sa'id ibn Jbayr reported that Ibn 'Abbas said about the verse: "And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks" (31:6), that, "ldle talks means singing and the like." Pl note -These are no ordinary people but companions of the prophet. About painting/drawing - the hadees are aslo very clear-the painters would burn in hellfire.

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  1. Pakistan is an Islamic state. That means the Government of Pakistan enforces Islam on each person. It is not an option. This is one of the great evils of a government sanctioned religion. The government can make you do anything they wish and you can't object. Nothing we can do about it.
  2. This is what you can expect when they become the majority. I wonder how will the American feminists like wearing a hijab and not have equality with men any longer.
  3. The point is that they cant. There is a group of extremists in Pakistan but the government isn't. Have you been to pakistan? It would be impossible for them to do anything about it.......and standing up against this would not be standing up against islam. You are missing the difference between islam and extremism. I'm a proud muslim but I despise extremism. First of all there is not one verse in the Quran that says women must wear veils. It does tell us to dress modestly but not full hijab. 2nd, there is one hadith that says we are not supposed to listen to music and that is not a strong hadith. There are other hadith that say the Prophet (pbuh) went to weddings where music was played. Aali.....I'm a pakistani muslim :(
  4. It wouldn't be their first time! Pakistanis do these kinds of stuff all the time! Once my driver, who happens to be a Pakistani, got very angry, because I insulted a very famous cleric, and he said that in his village in Pakistan someone got his head chopped off because of the same insult! Anyways I'm a Muslim and Islam as I know forbids any forceful act. It is a sin to force someone to wear hijab or pray or ... So they are just a bunch of idiots who got bored and have nothing to do except for minding people's business! EDIT: Oh and I fired my driver which caused his visa being canceled which was the reason he was shipped back to Pakistan! I didn't want a lunatic to drive me around!
  5. That's not true at all. What you have stated here is a strict and literal view of a minority sect in islam. They call themselves the Salafi sect. Basically it's pretty close to saying they are Wahabis - but they don't like this name. In my opinion, these are the Muslims that don't use their minds that God gave them and they simply read the black and white and don't use common sense. Ironically I've met Pakistani Muslims who are 1.)strict salafi types (mostly men), and 2.)non practicing (men and women both). Haven't yet found a person who uses their brain and still adheres to the laws.
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